Published On: Thu, May 13th, 2021

The Hills: New Beginnings: Brody Jenner and Kaitlynn Carter talk about her romance with Miley Cyrus

Brody Jenner and Kaitlynn Carter had an honest talk about Miley Cyrus and their split during the season two premiere Wednesday of The Hills: New Beginnings.

In the episode titled Burying The Past, Brody, 37, said his whole life had changed since he and his wife broke up in 2019.

The reality star revealed that he stopped drinking and began to focus on improving himself.

Season premiere: Brody Jenner and Kaitlynn Carter had an honest talk about Miley Cyrus and their split during the season two premiere Wednesday of The Hills: New Beginnings on MTV

With his spiritual awakening, he and Kaitlynn, 32, became even closer and could even amicably discuss her relationship immediately after the split with Miley, now 28.

‘The few first months after Brody and I split up were easily the most difficult and challenging months of my life,’ Kaitlynn admitted. ‘But I think we both accepted that splitting up was the right choice. Even though it was very sad on one hand, it’s pretty clear to me that we’re better off as friends.’

Brody said the same when Kaitlynn went over to his house with her dogs one afternoon.

‘Kaitlynn and I, I think our relationship ran its course,’ he reflected. ‘After we had our split, it was obviously tough for both of us. She got into a relationship with somebody, and I didn’t find out until I saw it in the press. But after some time had passed, I realized this is where our lives are going. We’re going to be separated and not be together, but let’s still be in each other’s lives. Let’s still maintain a friendship and a love.’

Tough time: 'The few first months after Brody and I split up were easily the most difficult and challenging months of my life,' Kaitlynn admitted

Tough time: ‘The few first months after Brody and I split up were easily the most difficult and challenging months of my life,’ Kaitlynn admitted

Better off: 'Even though it was very sad on one hand, it's pretty clear to me that we're better off as friends,' Kaitlynn said in a confessional

Better off: ‘Even though it was very sad on one hand, it’s pretty clear to me that we’re better off as friends,’ Kaitlynn said in a confessional

Brody had still not forgotten what occurred in fall 2019, and how tough it had been on him.

Kaitlyn acknowledged that they had never publicly spoken about the reason for their split, and said that Brody’s drinking didn’t help, but wasn’t the sole cause.

Brody said he’d felt so much pressure from Kaitlynn to have children, it drove him to drink—then he felt blindsided by her hook-up with Miley whose name was never mentioned.

Felt blindsided: Brody said he'd felt so much pressure from Kaitlynn to have children, it drove him to drink—then he felt blindsided by her hook-up with Miley whose name was never mentioned

Felt blindsided: Brody said he’d felt so much pressure from Kaitlynn to have children, it drove him to drink—then he felt blindsided by her hook-up with Miley whose name was never mentioned

‘The circumstances of what happened after our split catered to that negative s***,’ Brody told Kaitlynn. ‘The whole ”lesbian thing” was gnarly, ’cause in our entire relationship you never expressed that you had any interest in females whatsoever.’

‘I don’t think that’s totally fair or true to say,’ Kaitlynn protested.

‘We had some fun, but you said to me that you weren’t into girls,’ Brody countered.

Post split: 'The circumstances of what happened after our split catered to that negative s***,' Brody told Kaitlynn. 'The whole ''lesbian thing'' was gnarly, 'cause in our entire relationship you never expressed that you had any interest in females whatsoever'

Post split: ‘The circumstances of what happened after our split catered to that negative s***,’ Brody told Kaitlynn. ‘The whole ”lesbian thing” was gnarly, ’cause in our entire relationship you never expressed that you had any interest in females whatsoever’

‘Well, I think I had just never met somebody I was into,’ his ex said.

‘Right, but it was a shock for me and for a lot of people who saw that; it gave them an easy way out to say, ”Oh, she’s just in it for the fame, and in it for the money”,’ Brody pointed out.

Kaitlynn said that she’d never imagined going from one ‘pretty public relationship; into another, but ‘when [Miley] and I broke up, that was the hardest time of my life, because I was really on my own and in the center of a lot of attention, and I think being able to rediscover who I am as a person on my own completely just gave me a new outlook on everything.’

First time: 'Well, I think I had just never met somebody I was into,' his ex said of Miley

First time: ‘Well, I think I had just never met somebody I was into,’ his ex said of Miley

‘It was just a cycle of a number of things that weren’t aligning,’ she told Brody, who agreed there was no one to blame.

‘Just seeing the changes you’ve made, it does make me think: ”What if these changes had happened before we broke up?”,’ Kaitlynn added.

Directly after that segment, the show played Miley’s song Prisoner, the video of which finds her engaging in a playful lesbian relationship.

Looking back: 'Just seeing the changes you've made, it does make me think: ''What if these changes had happened before we broke up?'',' Kaitlynn added

Looking back: ‘Just seeing the changes you’ve made, it does make me think: ”What if these changes had happened before we broke up?”,’ Kaitlynn added

The episode opened with a cast party that brought old friends together for the first time since the coronavirus pandemic began.

Everyone had experienced personal challenges during quarantine, and some were left changed.

Audrina Patridge, 36, had been ‘really sick’ in 2020, and it had made her reflect on what she would put up with from people going forward.

New outlook: Audrina Patridge, 36, had been 'really sick' in 2020, and it had made her reflect on what she would put up with from people going forward.

New outlook: Audrina Patridge, 36, had been ‘really sick’ in 2020, and it had made her reflect on what she would put up with from people going forward.

Pre-pandemic, she and Brody had hooked up and considered giving it a shot, but then COVID-19 hit and Audrina ‘closed off from everyone.’

As she sat with Brody at the party, she admitted that they could pick back up again, and mused, ‘It’s hard to shake the thought of Brody and I, and what could have been.’

Her ex, Justin ‘Bobby’ Brescia, 39, had an admittedly typical response to the crisis: He fled.

Hooked up: As she sat with Brody at the party, Audrina admitted that they could pick back up again, and mused, 'It's hard to shake the thought of Brody and I, and what could have been'

Hooked up: As she sat with Brody at the party, Audrina admitted that they could pick back up again, and mused, ‘It’s hard to shake the thought of Brody and I, and what could have been’

‘The lockdown scared the s*** out of me,’ remembered Justin. ‘I was able to sneak into Mexico and post up on the beach there, let the world do its thing.’

Brody invited everyone at the party to purge themselves of the past year and move forward.

He said he had been on a spiritual trip with a shaman ‘down South,’ who told him that one could only get rid of the past by burying it.

Took off: Justin 'Bobby' Brescia, 39, had an admittedly typical response to the pandemic crisis: He fled

Took off: Justin ‘Bobby’ Brescia, 39, had an admittedly typical response to the pandemic crisis: He fled

To that end, Brody burned sage while walking a path into the hills and asked everyone to offer something to bury.

He went first, getting rid of a bottle of alcohol since he’d grown to hate his drunken behavior.

‘I just remember thinking, ”I am so sick of apologizing for dumb, dumb s*** that I do when I drink to excess”,’ Brody said privately, adding that he hoped to improve his relationships.

Buried booze: 'I just remember thinking, ''I am so sick of apologizing for dumb, dumb s*** that I do when I drink to excess'',' Brody said privately, adding that he hoped to improve his relationships

Buried booze: ‘I just remember thinking, ”I am so sick of apologizing for dumb, dumb s*** that I do when I drink to excess”,’ Brody said privately, adding that he hoped to improve his relationships

‘Kaitlynn, I want to apologize to you also, because I’ve been a nightmare to be around and to deal with,’ he told his ex, who said she was ‘really proud’ of him for doing that.

Audrina threw in a facsimile of her ‘little black book,’ insisting she’d stop looking back at past loves; Justin threw in a chain necklace so he would stop getting ‘chained down by stuff.’

Brandon Lee, 24, then buried $100, worried that he’d become too concerned about money, to the detriment of his relationships with loved ones.

Money matter: Brandon Lee, 24, then buried $100, worried that he'd become too concerned about money, to the detriment of his relationships with loved ones

Money matter: Brandon Lee, 24, then buried $100, worried that he’d become too concerned about money, to the detriment of his relationships with loved ones

Jason Wahler, 34, buried a bottle of Adderall, resolving to improve his relationships and stay clean of drugs after a relapse and difficult year for his marriage.

Spencer Pratt, 37, who’d gained 45 lbs. during the pandemic, going from 170 to 215 lbs., threw in a pot pie, saying he’d eaten ‘four or five’ a day.

Heidi Montag, 34, threw in her birth control because she wanted to have another baby ‘soon.’

Birth control: Heidi Montag, 34, threw in her birth control because she wanted to have another baby 'soon'

Birth control: Heidi Montag, 34, threw in her birth control because she wanted to have another baby ‘soon’

In a confessional, she explained, ‘I just feel like a baby’s always such a blessing, and it could be a really good thing for us and bring light into our family.’

The next day, she picked up nearly two dozen pregnancy tests.

‘Baby mode Heidi is like leading the Delta Force 80 squadron of making babies,’ Spencer observed. ‘Pre-pandemic, she had charts, and apps, and diagrams, and freakin’ timetables. This is real-deal strike mission that… I didn’t sign up for this level of expertise.’

Baby blessing: In a confessional, Heidi explained, 'I just feel like a baby's always such a blessing, and it could be a really good thing for us and bring light into our family'

Baby blessing: In a confessional, Heidi explained, ‘I just feel like a baby’s always such a blessing, and it could be a really good thing for us and bring light into our family’

Heidi worried that she was running out of time to have a baby, while Spencer was concerned that she was going too fast and neglecting her own needs.

When she’d last gotten pregnant, it happened the night she decided to and he feared she was trying to ‘manifest’ that into happening again.

‘You had no stress last time,’ he reminded Heidi as she showed him a negative test. ‘Your life was so relaxing, you weren’t trying to run a business. There was no pandemic.’

Getting worried: Heidi worried that she was running out of time to have a baby, while Spencer was concerned that she was going too fast and neglecting her own needs

Getting worried: Heidi worried that she was running out of time to have a baby, while Spencer was concerned that she was going too fast and neglecting her own needs

 

Slow down: 'You had no stress last time,' Spencer Pratt reminded Heidi as she showed him a negative test. 'Your life was so relaxing, you weren't trying to run a business. There was no pandemic'

Slow down: ‘You had no stress last time,’ Spencer Pratt reminded Heidi as she showed him a negative test. ‘Your life was so relaxing, you weren’t trying to run a business. There was no pandemic’

Heidi cried, saying she was getting older, and stating she wanted two more children.

‘I feel like I missed something already,’ she worried in a confessional. ‘Like I missed the opportunity to have another kid. I feel concerned that I am stressed out, and we are older, and I don’t know how long it’s going to take me to get pregnant.’

‘What happened to God’s timing?’ Spencer asked her.

Getting emotional: Heidi cried, saying she was getting older, and stating she wanted two more children

Getting emotional: Heidi cried, saying she was getting older, and stating she wanted two more children

‘I know,’ Heidi said. ‘I just want us to both try really hard, because I try really hard, and I care.’

When not planning their family, Spencer and Heidi aimed to help Audrina move on from her old boyfriends by setting her up with Sean Stewart, 40, the son of rocker Rod and his ex-wife Alana.

They talked about their astrological signs, what made them happy, and whether they’d ever get divorced, with Sean saying ‘never’ as he’d gone through his parents’ divorce when he was six.

First date: When not planning their family, Spencer and Heidi aimed to help Audrina move on from her old boyfriends by setting her up with Sean Stewart, 40, the son of rocker Rod and his ex-wife Alana

Charming guy: Audrina found Sean to be rather charming

First date: When not planning their family, Spencer and Heidi aimed to help Audrina move on from her old boyfriends by setting her up with Sean Stewart, 40, the son of rocker Rod and his ex-wife Alana

Martial arts: Sean and Audrina got up to show off martial arts moves

Martial arts: Sean and Audrina got up to show off martial arts moves

Audrina began to warm to the ‘charming’ man, even showing him her martial arts moves.

Meanwhile, Brandon was missing a girl named Dani that he’d split with during the pandemic, and told his pals, ‘I don’t think I can be without her.’

To woo her back, he set up a picnic overlooking a cliff and took her there blindfolded.

Missing her: Meanwhile, Brandon Lee was missing a girl named Dani that he'd split with during the pandemic, and told his pals, 'I don't think I can be without her'

Missing her: Meanwhile, Brandon Lee was missing a girl named Dani that he’d split with during the pandemic, and told his pals, ‘I don’t think I can be without her’

Blindfold on: To woo her back, he set up a picnic overlooking a cliff and took her there blindfolded

Blindfold on: To woo her back, he set up a picnic overlooking a cliff and took her there blindfolded

Big reveal: Brandon took off the blindfold to reveal a picnic setting near the edge of a cliff

Big reveal: Brandon took off the blindfold to reveal a picnic setting near the edge of a cliff

He explained that he’d been so stressed out about money that he’d overlooked the good things they had shared, and she said she’d never wanted to be a burden.

As a grand gesture, Brandon played her a song he’d written for her, and she took him back.

The Hills: New Beginnings will return next week on MTV.

Making up: He explained that he'd been so stressed out about money that he'd overlooked the good things they had shared, and Dani said she'd never wanted to be a burden

Making up: He explained that he’d been so stressed out about money that he’d overlooked the good things they had shared, and Dani said she’d never wanted to be a burden

Together again: Brandon and Dani kissed after he played a song that he made for her

Together again: Brandon and Dani kissed after he played a song that he made for her

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